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		<title>&#8230;It&#8217;s an issue of how you define capital and return.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 05:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Hillman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some really good thoughts on Social Capital(ism) and related investment by Roger Ehrenberg came from a panel in NYC sponsored by Philly&#8217;s Goodcompany Ventures. Goodcompany CEO Garret Melby, who I enjoyed meeting after my presentation about ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really good thoughts on Social Capital(ism) and related investment by Roger Ehrenberg came from a panel in NYC sponsored by Philly&#8217;s <a href="http://www.goodcompanyventures.org/">Goodcompany Ventures</a>. Goodcompany CEO <a href="http://crossovercapitalist.tumblr.com/">Garret Melby</a>, who I enjoyed meeting after my presentation about organic team building at Entrepreneurs Unplugged back in December and spoke at Ignite earlier this week, <a href="http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2010/03/a-new-model-for-investing-in-social.html#comment-38239924">also commented</a>.</p>

<p>The <a href="http://www.informationarbitrage.com/2010/03/a-new-model-for-investing-in-social.html">full post is worth reading</a>, but two quotes stood out to me:</p>

<blockquote>&#8230;<strong>It&#8217;s an issue of how you define capital and return.</strong></blockquote>

<blockquote>My hypothesis is that <strong>we need a whole new regime for quantifying the value of businesses that have goals other than strictly financial profit</strong>. We need hard numbers &#8211; real metrics &#8211; to demonstrate the value of initiatives that create value for society beyond the payment of staff and the generation of profits for shareholders.</blockquote>

<blockquote>But the &#8220;R&#8221; [in ROI] &#8211; the return &#8211; isn&#8217;t simply financial profit: it&#8217;s economic utility, real benefits being enjoyed by society.</blockquote>

<p>This leads me to something else that I always find hard to articulate: the ROI of IndyHall, or even coworking in general.</p>

<p>We&#8217;ve been running IndyHall for nearly 3 years as a business for a reason, and a profitable one at that. But the metrics for ROI aren&#8217;t salient, since most of the investment has been in human, knowledge, and time capital, and the return doesn&#8217;t show up on our balance sheet. As such, Geoff and I don&#8217;t take a draw, at least not in terms of cash&#8230;because that&#8217;s not what&#8217;s we&#8217;ve invested. If there was a balance sheet for the social capital we&#8217;ve invested and seen in return, though, and we had metrics for it, we&#8217;d be able to far better express and share what we&#8217;ve accomplished.</p>
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		<title>What to ask for, and when.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Hillman</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been talking to a bunch of people recently about investment, taking money, and some misperceptions about why (and how) money was put together for the projects I&#8217;ve worked on.<br />
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While some more of ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been talking to a bunch of people recently about investment, taking money, and some misperceptions about why (and how) money was put together for the projects I&#8217;ve worked on.</p>

<p>While some more of those conversations will begin to surface here in the near future, I wanted to share a short quip (and to break the month-long dry spell that has been this blog).</p>

<p>I&#8217;m honestly not 100% sure where I heard this first, but I know I&#8217;ve heard it from more than one person and I think <a href="http://redeye.firstround.com/" target="_blank">Josh Kopelman</a> was the first person I heard say it out loud:</p>

<blockquote><p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re looking for advice, ask for money. If you&#8217;re looking for money, ask for advice&#8221;.</p></blockquote>

<p>Both are valuable assets, advice and cash. Which do you need first, or more importantly, which do you need <em>now?</em></p>

<p>Something worth chewing on when the first thing you&#8217;re looking around for is someone with deep pockets to get your idea off the ground.</p>
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